Paul’s Gospel – No Conversion

After Sabbath Musings – 1/8/2012

So we have been working through FFOZ’s Torah Club Volume 6. Last night we stuck our big toe in to the frigid iced fed pond that is Paul’s Gospel. When you approach the teachings of Paul through the Hebrew and Jewish mind sight they morph and transform right before your eyes.

During the first century AD, Jewish people were exempt from the corporate worship of idols. When Gentiles first began in small numbers to join the Way they were encouraged to convert to Judaism. Why? Because Yeshua was the Jewish Messiah, because there is only ONE G-d, and because under Roman law if you were Jewish you were exempt from corporate idol worship.

In the synagogue in Antioch, there were large number’s of Gentiles believing in the Messiah Yeshua and following his teachings. The leadership through Barnabas sent for Saul. Why? Because conversion was a process and you needed someone with credentials to oversee the process. Saul was their man, but when he arrived he had a different idea, armed with scriptures out of Isaiah he taught the Gentiles not to convert to remain as they came. What was Paul’s plan for them when it was drawn to the Roman’s attention that these non-Jews did not worship idols? What was Paul’s plan for them in the Temple and Synagogue? Though I don’t know the answers I would love to hear from you all on this topic. The water’s frigid, but you don’t have to stay long.


5 thoughts on “Paul’s Gospel – No Conversion

  1. pamela holland January 8, 2012 / 4:00 pm

    Becky what a great study. Paul and other disciples that were called to go to the Gentiles were doing such a new thing no wonder it is hard to unravel. After all conversion meant turning from idols to the one true God.

    But I wonder if the real question isn’t the conversion but the transforming of their mindset from trusting in the (pagan) traditions of man much like the Jews had to struggle with a new mindset to no longer trust blindly in their religious leaders rejection of their Messiah.

    It truly was a new body of believers. Where would they study / worship as one?

    • harmony671 January 10, 2012 / 11:01 pm

      That’s the thing Mom, they were studying together in the synagogue in Antioch, all together. There were so many gentile converts that Barnabas sent for Paul. I just wonder if we are missing something? Perhaps Paul wanted us all in the synagogue, but still saw no reason for conversion. But the question I have is why not? If everyone understands its not a pre-requisite, why not convert so as to be above reproach. So no one thinks you are out there going to pagan temples?

      I do see the other layer to this, that we need to be led by the Spirit, and not blindly follow any religious or government authority.

      • pamela holland January 15, 2012 / 9:50 am

        Was Antioch far enough removed from the Pharisees of the Temple that they could see the truth of Gods plan clearer?

      • harmony671 January 15, 2012 / 4:10 pm

        I would say that they still fell under the influence of the Pharisees, because they sought out Paul for the help with the Gentiles. And Paul to the very end declared himself a Pharisee. Could you explain what part of G-d’s plan they were seeing in a better light?

  2. Lindsey January 18, 2012 / 10:24 pm

    I would say very much they were under the influence of the Pharisees- Yeshua was one, too! The language of the gospels makes this sooo easy to misunderstand (ie. it says ‘the Pharisees’ rather than ‘the *other* Pharisees), but at the same time the gospels clearly portray Yeshua as following Pharisaic custom and teaching- just far more of the Hillel variety than the Shamai variety.

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